Please DO NOT Buy a Ford (Unless It Has This Engine) (2023)

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Ford F-150 truck review. Never Buy a Ford F-150 (Unless It Has This Engine), DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Buying a Ford F-150. Are Ford trucks worth it? Buying a new Ford F-150 V8. Buying a used Ford F-150. Should I buy a Ford? Are Fords reliable? The truth about new Ford trucks. Car advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 54 years.

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Rev up your engines, this is 149 000 miles this f-150.

It's got the coyote 5-liter engine.

Is it a good engine? Is it a good truck? I'm gonna go through this thing with a fine-tooth comb and show you the truth about these things.

Guy just bought it.

He knew he was having a high mileage car because he only had a certain amount of money for twelve thousand five hundred dollars.

You can see it's an excellent shape.

It's got the back seats in it and it's a traditional rear-wheel drive truck.

It's not four-wheel, drive and also happens to be a flex fuel too meaning you can run it on gasoline.

That's got 10 ethanol.

You can even run it on e85, it's 85 ethanol, 15, gasoline.

Now, for my money, the ethanol is a complete waste because I just looked the other day.

It was only 30 cents, a gallon, cheaper than the regular gasoline, and this truck from my experience of customers.

They will get between 25 to 20 percent, worse gas mileage and since you're not saving 25 buying it.

It's a stupid thing to run it on ethanol because you get worse gas mileage.

Now the farmers love it because they're selling, corn and they're making money in the midwest you find nothing all everywhere.

When I lived in texas, there are only a handful of snow stations in the whole state.

Now this thing's been run on gasoline.

He runs on gasoline.

It makes the most sense to run on gasoline the big trucks they're going to use a lot of gas anyways.

Would you really want to get 20 to 25 percent? Worse gas mileage? No now this f-150 has a 5-liter coyote engine.

It's naturally aspirated it doesn't have gdi, it doesn't have turbo chargers and, as such, these engines can last for ever angle, is the keene.

Yes, it has a key and, as you see, it's got 149 000 miles on it.

Now you can hear it's a relatively quiet engine.

You can hear a little noise in the valves in the cam.

That's totally normal! Now, there's a big discussion out about these coyote engines.

Some people say they're garbage they make noise, they fall apart.

Well, it's not really the engine itself, especially in a 2013 from my experience, a lot of the ticking noises that people don't like in the coyote 5-liter v8s comes in later years when they went to the gasoline direct injection, all that extra pressure, those injectors have a tendency of being noisy.

This doesn't have this.

This has regular fuel injectors that work at a much lower pressure.

If you get a later one that has the gdi and it's making some noise.

The first thing you do is get yourself a stethoscope put it on the injector.

You hear the noise come from there and it runs okay, you don't care I've seen those things run, hundreds of thousands of miles, they're, still ticking away, but they're also still running perfectly fine okay, so this one it just has regular old fuel injectors under here.

You don't have to worry about it now being at its old school, not having gdi, not having turbo charges on it.

He drove from indianapolis to clarksville tennessee here and he got 17 miles a gallon on the highway.

That's what you'd expect to get with a big truck like this.

With the big v8 engine, when you're cruising at the speed limit now, the newer ones can get quite a bit better gas mileage, but it's kind of like a double-edged sword, because it's 2013 here's the gear shift lever.

It is a six-speed automatic.

This is before they went insane and put in that 10-speed automatic.

Now the 10-speed can get much better gas mileage because it has three overdrive gears, not one.

It has three of them, but it also sacrifices the reliability.

The tent speeds have had various problems, especially the earlier ones.

They can get phenomenal gas module.

They go between gears, people don't like them.

They feel kind of weird.

This six speed is much more bulletproof.

Yes, it doesn't get this good gas mileage, but if it can last forever, that's where my money's at because for a few miles per gallon, better gas mileage when that 10 speed training goes on the many thousands you will spend fixing it will more than negate getting a little bit better gas mileage.

Sometimes old technology is better.

If you want to last for a long time, did he buy a four-wheel drive? No.

This is just regular wheels.

This is a conventional v8, automatic transmission and rear-wheel drive.

That generally, can last a really really long time.

Believe me, you don't want to buy something you don't need that raises.

The cost of the vehicle makes it harder to fix more expensive to fix, and it also drops your gas mod.

You go to a four-wheel drive vehicle from a two-wheel drive you're going to get worse, gas mileage more friction, more driving force and even worse gas mods.

If you don't need it, don't waste your money on it, you can see it's well made.

It's got all the coolers stuck in the front here, so it doesn't have overeating problems if you're pulling or towing and going back to the six-speed transmission you tow with these things and pull it doesn't really bother them much.

You start doing that with the 10 speed you get weird gear shifts, it doesn't feel right, especially going uphill downhill and they have had some problems with them.

You are better off with a more basic one.

Like these older six speeds, the fight to get better and better gas mileage has created more and more complex vehicles that break down more often you're better with an older one.

Like this, that's simple! So, let's see if he really got a deal by hooking up my computer, easy to hook it up to the ford usage 2013 and we'll do an automatic scan.

You can see it's going to go through all these systems.

So far, only one bad one, a lot of times you find minor stuff wrong, so we're going to go through the whole system with this and then see what's red, the only thing around is here: power steering control module as the voltage of the battery is off.

No big deal realized this thing set for a while.

I had a car a lot before he bought the thing, so I'm going to check the battery after we do all this analysis could be.

It was a weak battery.

It might have been recharged, and it's fine now we'll check that, but that you don't worry about those codes.

Really we're going to look at the pure data start it up.

We'll go to the computer system and we will look at live data, see we're not screwing around here.

There's 373 bits of live data we'll start going through it all.

Ah, these are color coded.

So if there's a weird color and we'll analyze some of the data personally now we know the alternate is working because it's running and it's 13.789 volts.

So it's charging fine.

The alternator is working we'll check the battery when we're done no fault in any of the camshaft sensors long way to go we're on 91 and there's 373 bits of data good thing, my brain still works, and this is the problem with these flex fuel vehicles.

They have a tremendous amount of data and in order to check them out, you need a guy like me with a fancy machine like this to do it, you really have to know what the data is and what it means pump has no faults.

You can see the short term.

Airflow is 0.00.

Look at that! It's running perfectly: it's not trimming it at all.

There point zero, zero point: zero, one or point zero, nine every once in a while.

A little trim, but it's hardly nothing for a vehicle with this mileage projectors, all eight, they all say no fault.

This shows you the long-term fuel trim of each cylinder bank two and we got one two.

Three, four: it's subtracting a little.

It's running a little bit rich on number, four perfect on three and two and it's running a little bit lean on cell one.

It does have 149 000 miles.

I can feel a little jiggle on the steering wheel.

I can feel a little bit of just a jig car with this mileage there's no way the fuel injectors are perfect.

What I would advise would have been professionally cleaned with a fuel injection cleaning machine and it would probably make them run a little bit better.

Now, it's only a tiny bit off see in the olden days.

The machine would show the fuel trim for one bank or the other, but all four in a row.

This does individual ones.

It's how complex the software is on these that you can see the individual engine.

You can see on this that two and three are perfect, but one and four are a little bit off one's running a little rich one running a little bit lean and the only thing that really is going to do that is the fuel injectors being dirty or just being worn and need replacing at some point in time.

But since it's getting its regular 17 miles a gallon the highway, I personally would leave it alone.

Airflow sensors working fine, no fault around 266.

We still got over 100, more data points to go.

These things are color coordinated because they're all black, so I know they're within specs and then, if I have a question about any particular one, I can just look at the actual one, and if I want I can even graph, as you can see, I'm now graphing the rear oxygen fuel trim, we're getting into the transmission data nothing's out there don't know it's in pretty good shape, let's take it for a spin, so fire chipped and good.

We got no complaints about the transmission whatsoever.

Wait till cars get out of the way here comes another one.

The other way so we'll wait some more all right here we go the pickup truck's, going where it belongs on the corn fields.

Now it's a conventional v8, so it's got a lot of torque to it, makes a decent sound high up in here.

I don't hear any bearing noises.

I don't hear anything odd and now we'll get to the little drag strip come to a stop, because there's nobody behind us and we'll see what it can do here we go.

It is a v8 engine that has a reasonable amount of power.

I must say the traction control isn't working too good, because the wheels are spinning, but I like it better that way.

Anyways and you can see when we floored downshifts, let go it goes up.

Does it clump? No, I like these six-speed transmissions.

If this was a 10-speed to me, they feel weird and they do have problems as they age.

These six speeds.

It's got 149.

It really doesn't operate any different than a brand new one does so, if you're really looking for a good truck, if you can find one of these with a six-speed and a normal v8, it doesn't really matter that it's flex fuel just use regular gas and pretend it isn't flex fuel unless you're a farmer living in the midwest, and you want to sell that corn go ahead and put it in, but you're wasting your money because you're going to get worse, gas mileage and you're never going to recoup the small price differential as it stands today, maybe one day gasoline will be ten dollars.

A gallon and ethanol will be four and then it'd be worth buying, but not today and really for a pickup truck.

They redesigned these things a long time ago when you're taking corners.

It says you're supposed to take this to 20.

we're going 50 and it's not straining at all.

They do ride a lot better than they used to pretty smooth ride for a rear-wheel drive, pickup truck actually with 149 000 miles.

Road test was fine, but we're gonna check the battery now because it had that one stupid code, low voltage could just be the battery was weak because it said a while or it could be, that the battery's going bad so we'll test it.

I got the little battery tester hooked up, dropped to the battery battery health test.

Looking for floating electricity, there isn't any go by cold cranking.

This is 8.50 and I know it's 8.50, that's close enough because it says 850 right here.

So here we go testing the battery.

Here we go 100 82 percent of its life is left battery's normal.

Do I see hey it's pretty shiny, it's a relatively new battery, so the code was probably from the previous battery.

This is what a lot of people don't understand if you replace a battery in a car, especially a fancy one like this, that's a flex fuel.

You want to erase all the codes with a fancy machine like mine, otherwise you'll have old codes that stay forever.

So there we have it an excellent used f-150 for a good price showing that the coyote 5-liter engines can be great engines and that these six-speed automatic transmissions can hold up quite well.

I'm still questioning the 10-speed automatics on a later model once but on this 2013 know the six-speed still shifts like a dream that shuts the case on this f-150.

So you can make the right choice and here's the funny thing.

This guy wasn't even looking for a pickup truck.

He wanted a dependable vehicle, that's going to last a really long time and that's what he got.

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